we're using every approach we can find. we're using the imf. in the g tannish 20 -- we're using the g-20. it is not just us. even if it was only us, we would still want them to change their practice. i think that has significant potential. i do not think it will change it on its own. china needs to decide is in their interest to protect intellectual property so that there innovators and prevent it -- and inventors have the kinds of protections we provided the united states. they do not want to be left with their monetary policy compromise. we have to make sure they understand that their ability to participate and benefit from this open, multilateral system of trade agreements and obligations -- and our market depends on them changing their behavior. >> i met today with the vice minister of commerce and we pressed the same issues. it is in their interest to work with some of these multilateral institutions. it is in their interest to be cooperative in this endeavor. otherwise, their admonition to us was not to politicize the economic and commerc